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Jonty Wareing
@jonty@chaos.social

What is the most inappropriate connector with enough pins to support USB-C?

I suggest:

An ATX power supply connector
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@jonty

IRS 50558

https://www.google.com/search?q=IRS%2050558&udm=2

IRS 50558 - Google Search www.google.com
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Michael Wyman
@mwyman@mastodon.social

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@jonty how about an AMP cable?

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@jonty I was thinking one of the 13W3 like things; 24W7 gets you 17 normal pins and 7 big ones, which I think means you could have a couple of 80A power connectors, and some high speed data.
https://www.mouser.co.uk/datasheet/2/1093/C004RevF3_ComboD-2584002.pdf

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Lexi
@lexr@chaos.social

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@jonty Parallel perhaps?

A messy desk with some DIY USB-C to DB25 parallel adapters, a Cynthion testing device and a laptop displaying a successful 12Mbps packet test
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ç
@cedilla@bark.lgbt

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@jonty keeping this bookmarked. People are giving great examples of connector for my future projects. Thanks acousticism.

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Frank
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@jonty I have an early ebike that uses this as the connector between the battery/controller and the motor/sensors mounted on the frame.

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@jonty

If the cable is keyed, we only need 12 conductors.

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/cable/number-of-poles~12/voltage~60v-dc/

McMaster-Carr www.mcmaster.com
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Captain Packrat
@captpackrat@pawb.fun

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@jonty

The back of a Sensormatic Intellex Digital Video Management System.  In addition to the usual early 2000s computer ports, PS/2 keyboard and mouse, DB-9 serial, DB-25 parallel, etc, it has a panel with 16 pairs of BNC connectors and a row of 2-pin alarm input connectors, connected to two card slots using a double ribbon cable.
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Σ(i³) = (Σi)²
@SvenGeier@mathstodon.xyz

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@jonty
Hear me out...

ieee-488 GPIB connector
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Spider
@Spider@mastodon.social

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@jonty

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Melroy van den Berg
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org

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@jonty 40 pin ribbon cable will do. And allows you to daisy chain additional devices on the same bus.

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Workshopshed
@Workshopshed@mastodon.scot

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@jonty one of those aerospace/military connectors which cost a fortune

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Glenn Seto
@glennseto@mastodon.social

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@jonty

Photo of the Hoover Dam.
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pascoda
@pascoda@chaos.social

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@jonty
way too many replies to check whether @MacLemon has been tagged here already. and even if he's seen it before, nightmares need to be remembered!

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Mrs Beanbag
@mrsbeanbag@ieji.de

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@jonty Atari 2600 cartridge

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Daniele Pantaleo 🦥:verified:
@ozone89@techhub.social

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@jonty not a connector per se, but...

An array of magnetrons and chickens with a temp probe in their butts

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Jernej Simončič �
@jernej__s@infosec.exchange

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@jonty How about ultrasound probe connectors? Should be enough for about 16 USB-C connectors in parallel.

Ultrasound probe connector, with 404 pads visible.
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Simon Waldman
@swaldman@mendeddrum.org

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@jonty

I recommend https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/heavy-duty-power-connectors/3961548

With 16A per pin, it should allow for New and Innovative proprietary variations on USB-PD.
*sells idea to Dell*

10102000+10196000+10197000+191 | EPIC Connector Set, 24 Way, 16A, Female to Male, H-BE, 440 V | RS uk.rs-online.com
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indrora, hacker at small
@indrora@furry.engineer

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@jonty Ampehenol's Medi-Stac and Medi-Slice.

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Sylvhem
@Sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

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@jonty It’s just a matter of time before we replace ATX connector with USB-C ones :blob_hyperthink:.

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@mensrea@freeradical.zone

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@jonty 24 port i mean pins

a 24 port cisco network switch
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Daniel Durrans
@dan@durrans.com

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@jonty this is why I miss Maplin. That catalog would be perfect for answering this question.

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Graham Sutherland / Polynomial
@gsuberland@chaos.social

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@jonty i just realised that you could run USB 3.2 over a PCIe 4x slot since they're both 85Ω impedance.

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Andrew
@cinebox@masto.hackers.town

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@jonty

North American railroad multiple unit connector
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Athamanatha
@athamanatha@furry.engineer

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@jonty
For the glory of sheer hackiness, I approve!

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adorfer
@adorfer@chaos.social

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@jonty May i suggest TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS?

https://fv.technogothic.net/@AgathaSorceress/113317998120714263

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qwazix
@qwazix@bananachips.club

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@jonty alligator clips. Enough of them.

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Terence Eden
@Edent@mastodon.social

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@jonty the Sega MegaDrive expansion port (for the Mega CD) has more than enough pins. It would finally allow us to create the ultimate gaming system and beat Nintendo!

megadrive with the expansion cover off.
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ElonsMom
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@jonty

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JSON Alexander
@crashtestdev@woof.tech

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@jonty How about we use something really tiny, using really weak materials, such that after a year of twice daily use it becomes unreliable, and lets make the devices we install it on virtually impossible to repair, so devices, hardware, and cables that would otherwise be good for many years become e-waste after barely a year because a dumb fucking connector is a single point of failure

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Stephen Brooks 🦆
@sjb@mstdn.io

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@jonty Lesker 32-pin ultra-high vacuum feedthrough using "MIL-C-26482 style connector".
https://www.lesker.com/feedthroughs/instrument-feedthroughs-mpc-singleend/part/iftrg327013

Kurt J. Lesker Company www.lesker.com
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MrMozz
@MrMozz@social.linux.pizza

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@jonty Is it finally time to bring back the 30-pin Apple connector? I have a ton of old iPod docks that I could finally put to good use again

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@admin@wonkodon.com

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@jonty
Back to communications basics.

Old 4-prong telephone jack and plug.
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Daniel M Karlsson
@t36s@social.ordinal.garden

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@jonty I love your suggestion. Have you ever experienced a Speakon connector? Those are my all time fav. Very satisfying to lock by rotating one quarter turn.

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Claudius
@claudius@darmstadt.social

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@jonty now I want reversible ATX.

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NSKE
@nske@ravenation.club

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@jonty The BSI coupler, modelled here by the mighty Pacer train, has 50 electrical pins. I make that enough for two USB-C connections.

British rail Pacer train with a BSI coupler
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@jonty Has anyone posted this one yet?

Of course it isn't reversable like USB-C (at least not without a hacksaw...)

And you'd have to physically align both devices, unless you're into flexi PCBs...

Photo of a ZX Spectrum Edge connector expander
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@schaf@netzkms.de

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@jonty after working in physics labs for much too long, I suggest the good old "24 unlabelled bnc cables hanging from some hook on the ceiling" coupling.

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Nav
@nav@mstdn.social

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@jonty 13W3

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@pointlessone@status.pointless.one

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@jonty 3 of this.

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Ben Keith 🚲
@benlk@urbanists.social

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@jonty @else Three-strand braided Cat6 Ethernet cable, abbreviated 3x8P8C. For convenience, the connectors are colored red, yellow, and white, leading to the connector's nickname: Composite PoE.

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§-57213
@SyntheticAutumn@girlcock.club

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@jonty thread for you, @digimint >:3

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Pete Wildsmith
@weargoggles@mastodon.social

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@jonty taking usb-c reversibility to the next level with a connector that requires not one but two special tools, one each to insert and remove it.

Screenshot of Amphenol’s website, showing marketing photos for the “ExaMEZZ®️ 56Gb/s High Speed, Hermaphroditic BGA Mezzanine connector”
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Dr Kim Foale
@kim@social.gfsc.studio

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@jonty i mean, techically,

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Emily_S
@emily_s@mastodon.me.uk

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@jonty a few extra lines, call it multi usb c

A picture of a pci-e 16 extension cable
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Plaid
@plaidtron3000@jorts.horse

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@jonty @prozacchiwawa v.35

And so affordable!

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Philip Mallegol-Hansen
@philip@mallegolhansen.com

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@jonty That’s cursed. I love it.

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done
@done@mastodon.social

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@jonty
TX: SERIAL
RX: SERIAL
V+: SERIAL
AC: SERIAL
GND: SERIAL
BUS: SERIAL
CC: SERIAL
SBU: SERIAL
CLK: SERIAL
DATA: SERIAL
PWM: SERIAL
Analog: SERIAL
Reset: SERIAL

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Simon 🐝 🫖
@simonbtemple@mstdn.social

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@jonty one from @foone
Usb to VGA, doesn't support usb C yet tho!
https://digipres.club/@foone/113262419209347413

Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (@foone@digipres.club) digipres.club
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mrx65535
@mrx65535@mastodon.social

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@jonty Centronics

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basil_hare
@basil_hare@floofy.tech

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@jonty Four separate BNC connectors with floating shields.

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smellsofbikes
@smellsofbikes@mastodon.social

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@jonty alternative suggestion

Gpib one side
Gpib other side
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Steve Hill 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺
@steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org

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@jonty scart? :)

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Marcus Müller
@funkylab@mastodon.social

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@jonty which generation of SuperSpeed do you intend to support? You don't need more than 6 contacts (7 with PD) for valid USB 2 connectivity for USB-C (12 or 14 if you want to make your connector "wrong orientation pluggable", which very few of the ludicrous connectors but USB-C would allow, anyways…).

So, the spiciness here lies within "most inappropriate" but "still makes sense to have 24 pins, because USB 3 SS works". I'll go with a LEMO 24-pin circular connector with 6 coax connections,…

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@jonty Whatever the box is in this photo. https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/electronics-and-detonators/

Electronics and Detonators - Nuclear Museum Nuclear Museum
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Sheddi
@sheddi@mstdn.party

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@jonty how about a pair of six-pin DIN connectors?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector

DIN connector - Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org
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James Smith 💾
@Floppy@mastodon.me.uk

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@jonty no, wait, I've got it:

A tractor and trailer with lots of wires connecting them
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James Smith 💾
@Floppy@mastodon.me.uk

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@jonty Centronics had 25...

A very old fashioned grey 25-pin parallel cable.
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John Burwell aka deet
@jmbwell@jmbwell.me

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@jonty@chaos.social now glue two back to back so it’s reversible!

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@q66@blahaj.social

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@jonty i can't think of a connector more inappropriate than usb-c

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Gary Parker :party_porg:
@WiteWulf@cyberplace.social

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@jonty both the Dreamcast and Nintendo (SNES, Gamecube, and N64) AV connectors also had enough pins to support USB-C 🤔

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Braid in trains :uz: - solidarity with :streik:
@lewd@zug.network

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@jonty WTF I wanna build that

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jaseg
@jaseg@chaos.social

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@jonty Just put all the PD standard voltages each on a separate pin, and tada: no need for any complex power negotiation anymore!

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Mr Chimp
@mr_chimp@mastodon.social

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@jonty Four unlabeled MIDI cables so that you get that nostalgic USB-A charm of having to try it different ways when plugging it in.

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@adamrice@c.im

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@jonty

An obviously staged stock photo of a woman with a goofy grin on her face, who was not even born when the last manual switchboard was taken out of service, sitting at a manual phone switchboard. She’s wearing a purple headband and a modern-ish headset that would be completely incompatible with the switchboard. The switchboard has many of its cords plugged into the plugboard.
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Erik Ableson
@erik@infrageeks.social

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@jonty @darkphoenix I have a soft spot for the old SCSI connectors

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adorfer
@adorfer@chaos.social

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@jonty
Scharfenberg! Because there are so many variants!

https://www.s-bahn-galerie.de/S_Bahn_Berlin/xScharfenberg/877_602_03.htm

Scharfenbergkupplung - S-Bahn Berlin www.s-bahn-galerie.de
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James T Monkey
@teamonkey@mastodon.social

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@jonty Does OBD-II have enough pins?

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Steve Bellovin
@SteveBellovin@mastodon.lawprofs.org

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@jonty @cstross I'd suggest IBM bus and tag cables, from their older mainframes: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/IBM_360_Bus_Tag_Cables.png. Note that the connectors are about 10 cm long — and you needed two to connect to each I/O device…

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Maciej
@maciej73@pol.social

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@jonty 16 pin JST-XH for data + XT60 for power

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Dan Sugalski
@wordshaper@weatherishappening.network

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@jonty For a second I though that was a connector-of-connectors, welding a bunch of RJ-11 jacks together and...

Wait, hold on, I have an Idea!

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Wolf480pl
@wolf480pl@mstdn.io

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@jonty Fiat Punto Door Connector

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Ben Hardill
@ben@hardill.me.uk

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@jonty Does SCART have enough pins?

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Matt Gray
@mattgrayyes@chaos.social

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@jonty ooh wait
B gague jackfield and multicore loom

1U B gauge jackfield
Jack looms showing multiple Jack connectors fanning out
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danimrich
@danimrich@mastodon.social

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@jonty Nuclear Instrumentation Standard (NIM bins).

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Andrew Zonenberg
@azonenberg@ioc.exchange

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@jonty Hmmm.

PCIe card edge?

QSFP+?

DIMM?

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Matt Gray
@mattgrayyes@chaos.social

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@jonty 36-way EDAC? It’s got a lovely bolt-in design to keep it mated.

https://edac.net/series/519

https://www.digikey.co.uk/en/products/detail/edac-inc/519-036-000-305/13721392

An EDAC connector shell showing knurled handle for bolt going through the middle.
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furicle
@furicle@mastodon.social

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@jonty Aren't we missing the obvious here?

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0565/9293/products/DSC_0028_489509f2-da6f-4391-9075-d4e93ad58c35_grande.JPG?v=1479405862

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Iris Young (he/they/she) (PhD)
@iris@neuromatch.social

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@jonty

24 pin industrial waterproof connector measuring 99 mm by 43 mm by 140 mm in the side connection version or 128 mm by 43 mm by 140 mm in the straight through version. It's labeled as appropriate for 13 to 18 mm cables. the connection is made with two rows of pins, and the whole thing clamps together for mechanical stability.
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yopp
@alex@yopp.me

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@jonty this one is future proof an will be able to comply with PD-42 spec, handling 1000W to power your fancy USB-C kettle

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Steve Scott
@wishy@tooter.wishy.co.uk

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@jonty I suggest the HD50 standard. It can carry two USB-C connections for twice the fun, and 50pin HD-Dual-C (TM) to USB-A connectors are already available!

Be HD (tm)

USB to SCSI2 Intelligent Cable. 50 Pin HD SCSI Standard
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Jonty Wareing
@jonty@chaos.social

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This deeply cursed suggestion from @bazbremner

An 8-way UK plug extension board
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DDR
@ddr@pony.social

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@jonty Okay. I had not considered that. An impressive feat!

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DDR
@ddr@pony.social

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@jonty wait I got one - it solves the issue where you can't plug it in first try. Didn't count but should be more than enough pins.

(Image credit: Wikipedia)

a porcupine
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as a large fashion model,
@dngrs@chaos.social

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@jonty spicy breadboard

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Hackhörnchen
@Hackhoernchen@kif.rocks

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@jonty @bazbremner The forbidden breadboard

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Dragon
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@jonty I know of someone who thought it would be clever to use one of those to distribute low voltage DC.

Someone else not knowing this plugged the device into a different one that was connected to 240v A/C.

Apparently the bang was quite spectacular.

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@jonty @bazbremner In theory yes. In practice we almost got two places burnt because of USB C dangling around plugs

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Extreme Electronics
@Extelec@mstdn.social

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@jonty 3 phase commando

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Gary Parker :party_porg:
@WiteWulf@cyberplace.social

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@jonty well, re. an ongoing conversation elsewhere:

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blausand 🐟
@blausand@chaos.social

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@jonty https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART true full Inappropriateness

SCART – Wikipedia de.wikipedia.org
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